But TLJ pretty much cemented Kylo as an unlikable asshole for

18 Dec But TLJ pretty much cemented Kylo as an unlikable asshole for

Kylo does not deserve redemption

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cheap moncler jackets sale The comparisons to Vader are also foolish because Vader was never expunged of his sins. We weren asked to cheap moncler sale believe that his evil cheap moncler coats choices never really happened, weren his fault, or weren that bad. “Redemption” didn mean he was suddenly sitting around the family dinner table as a jovial family patriarch and all was forgotten. In fact, the power of his choice to save his son only works because the OT never goes back on depicting him as a deeply corrupted person. The idea that someone who is so far down the path of evil can still make buy moncler jackets the right choice is a powerful one, even spiritual. cheap moncler jackets sale

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cheap moncler coats Like so many other things, TLJ fucked this up by doing the phony “it wasn really his fault” kind of redemption instead of the “it was his fault, but he never stops having the power to make a different choice” type of redemption that was Vader story. But TLJ neuters Kylo Ren as a character monlcer down jackets by outsourcing his choices to other people. cheap moncler coats

cheap moncler outlet I was okay with the redemption theory after TFA because at that point there were still 2 movies left for him to evolve and a lot of things could changed in that time frame. But TLJ pretty much cemented Kylo as an unlikable asshole for me and I want nothing less than to see him get what coming to him now. TLJ seems to have set up a redemption by not having Kylo be free from Snokes influence until late in the movie, without defining what kind of influence he had, and by having Kylo not kill any good guys, except the no moncler outlet name pilots who die off screen. Even his de spine ing of Finn was made less bad by having moncler sale Finn immediately recover. cheap moncler outlet

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